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Hi there and welcome to the Wellness Mama Podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And this episode, as I discussed within the 700th episode, is deviating from simply bodily well being and wellness, so that could be a element right here and delving slightly bit into the monetary aspect of wellness as properly. This episode is all about how we’re all buyers, and The New Millionaire’s Playbook. And I’m right here with my buddy Gordy Bal, who’s a really heart-centered entrepreneur. He’s an investor and a visionary chief on this area. And he’s the writer of the brand new e-book, The New Millionaire’s Playbook, which is, I cherished this e-book, and I’ll hyperlink to it within the present notes. He’s the founder as properly of the Acutely aware Thought Revolution, which consists of a enterprise capital fund and a world-class advertising company, which invests in entrepreneurs and organizations dedicated to bettering humanity. And thru these organizations, he spearheaded the transformation of early startups into billion-dollar powerhouses. And we go deep on this episode about numerous the interior and thought-based features of investing in entrepreneurship and monetary success. So, I do know it is a little little bit of a brand new matter, however he offers numerous nice methods on this episode and definitely additionally in his e-book. So, let’s be part of Gordy. Gordy, it’s such an honor to have you ever right here. Thanks for becoming a member of us.
Gordy: Completely my pleasure.
Katie: Nicely, I’m very excited to leap in and chat with you in the present day. I opened the door just lately to clarify that I used to be gonna be speaking about subjects past simply bodily well being as a result of I do assume our psychological well being, our non secular well being, our monetary well being are all very worthwhile features of well being and wellness. And I’m so excited to get to do this with you in the present day, particularly. For individuals who aren’t acquainted, I’m gonna, in fact, hyperlink to your new e-book, which I cherished, within the present notes at wellnessmama.com. However I do know that there was fairly the non-public journey right here as properly. So, for background, I might love when you might share slightly little bit of your private journey and what led to the creation of this e-book.
Gordy: Yeah, completely. So, I suppose I’ll begin, you understand as, as a baby of immigrant mother and father who moved from India to Canada with $20. They had been first era, and so they labored their asses off to essentially create a life that they thought can be optimum for us. However rising up in that family, there was fairly a little bit of rigidity and battle and strife. And as a baby, the that means I made out of that was that, oh, it should be as a result of we don’t have some huge cash. So, I instantly took on this function of, like, properly, I’m going to make as a lot cash as humanly attainable and remedy not solely the issues at house however remedy all the issues on the earth. And so, I received actually good at entrepreneurial expertise. I developed them fairly early on. And being a baby of the web, I discovered the way to generate profits on-line. And by the point I used to be in highschool, I used to be doing internet affiliate marketing and producing tens of 1000’s of {dollars} a month. And so, my checking account was rising. And nothing was actually bettering or altering as I assumed it could. And so, you understand, issues, issues had been, had been form of like, you understand, arduous. And, and I used to be like, properly, I assumed if I made some huge cash, issues would get higher, however I nonetheless didn’t have any solutions. After which, so I’m like, okay, properly, I’ll nonetheless go to college.
So, I went and received a four-year diploma in three years trigger I’ve all the time been like this hacker form of like, how do I form of, you understand, do issues sooner, cheaper, smarter, simpler, you understand, how entrepreneurs do. So, I received my four-year diploma in three years whereas launching extra companies on-line, and I ended up constructing this, you understand, and you understand, on Wall Wtreet, they’ve like high-frequency buying and selling for shares. I did that however for internet advertising. So, I constructed like this visitors platform that was shopping for and promoting adverts, and it was making like an insane sum of money. However I awoke someday in deep existential dread. I felt like I’ve extra money than I do know what to do with. You realize, my household life is there’s nonetheless there’s nonetheless like, you understand, strife and battle and stress. It’s not all rainbows and unicorns. And on the time, this historic mystic poet by the title of Biggie Smalls, he had this tune Mo Cash, Mo Issues. And I felt like I used to be residing that as a result of I used to be spiritually bankrupt, regardless that I had a giant checking account.
And in order that’s once I began actually form of asking deeper questions of, like, wait, like, what is that this sport I’m enjoying? How does the world really work? Why is it that there’s some individuals who have a lot cash and are in a position to purchase and do something they need, and simply down the identical avenue, there’s individuals that may’t even purchase meals and don’t even have sneakers to put on? And the way does the federal government work? How does the healthcare system work? How does schooling system work? And so, I began form of deconstructing numerous these establishments of energy solely to appreciate and are available to this conclusion that the sport is rigged. Like we’re all enjoying this sport the place a choose few profit at the price of everyone else and the planet. And in order that’s form of like, I’d say, the origin story of, you understand, what received me to begin asking larger questions and understanding how the world works.
However what I’ll say to cap that story off is that solely led to extra questions. As a result of once I noticed that the sport was rigged, as like, properly, what’s the purpose of amassing a lot cash and energy. What’s the true sport being performed? And that’s once I actually dove deep into extra of the existential questions of, like, who am I? What’s my objective? What’s the nature of actuality? How does actuality really get rendered? And what’s human consciousness? And in order that has been my final, I’d say, virtually 15-year journey actually diving deep into myself. So yeah, that’s the origin story.
Katie: I like it. And I might like to delve into a few of the stuff you write about within the e-book as a result of I do assume this is applicable to everybody. And I feel proper now we’re seeing so many mothers getting into the enterprise world, whether or not it’s by means of proudly owning their very own companies, by means of investing, by means of micro companies. There’s so many choices, such as you stated, with the daybreak of the web, really all the things is at our fingertips. That doesn’t make it any simpler to leap in when you’ve by no means accomplished it earlier than. However I really like that you simply introduced within the ethos of kind of your non secular element as a result of I feel that could be a large lacking piece that’s important after we’re speaking about really acutely aware change, which I do know is a giant factor for you and for me as properly. And my mission right here with Wellness Mama has all the time been to like and serve mothers and assist individuals ask higher questions. And I really consider that with some framework and logistical assist in place, after we assist and serve individuals, the financial half virtually effortlessly works itself out if we have now that piece dialed in. So, I really like that you’ve that woven by means of all of the message of your complete e-book.
However I might love to begin delving into a few of the pillars that you simply speak about within the e-book as a result of I really feel like it is a considerably new matter, probably for lots of the individuals listening. And also you give a lot absolute wonderful knowledge within the e-book. So, are you able to possibly stroll us by means of the excessive stage of a few of the pillars that you simply carry up within the e-book?
Gordy: Yeah, completely. So, the very first thing, so chat, so the important thing, the primary, so I speak about seven keys in direction of freedom, objective, and abundance. And the primary key’s round unplugging from the matrix. So, I put forth this notion of the matrix in, in, in a brand new definition the place I, I, I confer with it as a simulated actuality that’s projected from an influence system that’s globally entrenched and operates with unconscious ideas. And one of many methods by which that’s proliferated is thru social media and social media algorithms. And so, I additionally in, in that key, I speak about understanding this idea that Steve Jobs coined, which is the fact distortion subject. So, consider the fact distortion subject because the film display by which your life and your actuality will get performed.
Now, for many of us, that what’s being projected on that film display is from exterior inputs, whether or not that’s conditioning from our mother and father, whether or not it’s from the varsity system, whether or not it’s from mainstream media. And so, when that’s taking place, the film that’s being projected on that actuality distortion subject referred to as our life or a actuality is externally pushed. And so, the massive swap is to appreciate that we are able to really interface with the fact distortion subject and create our personal actuality. And the way in which by which to do that is thru our ideas as a result of I speak about how our ideas are probably the most highly effective foreign money we have now to take a position.
A examine out of Stanford confirmed that we have now between 40 and 60,000 ideas per day. And most of these ideas we’re unconscious of. And so these, and so after we are in a position to grow to be acutely aware of the ideas that we’re having, we’re in a position to then depict and create the fact we wish as a result of ideas grow to be actuality. However after we’re not acutely aware of it, we’re unconsciously kind of enjoying out this actuality that’s externally curated for us. In order that’s form of the primary idea that I, and the primary key, I dive into.
After which, as soon as we unplug from the matrix, then I speak about the way it’s completely important, particularly in the present day and now, to find our true objective. Why are we really right here? And, and so I walked by means of a framework, a five-step framework on the way to really get clear in your life objective. And a part of that additionally, like a few of this sounds esoteric, however I stroll by means of pragmatic and sensible steps to get there. And a part of it’s to really begin connecting along with your soul. And most of us have been so disconnected from our soul. So, once I’m speaking to, you understand, whether or not it’s entrepreneurs or even when it’s mothers and, and the mother neighborhood is so large for me too. My, my spouse, who, you understand, you’ve gotten to satisfy, Sukhi, we have now three youngsters, and I’ve seen simply how a lot she has devoted her life to the elevating of youngsters. And now I’m watching her transfer into again into, like, kind of outdoors of mother mode, however into creator world. And so, serving to help her and maintain area for her to find her objective. It’s been so profound and magical to see that. And so, I feel, particularly with, you understand, the proliferation of synthetic intelligence and, and I imply, you’ve seen the facility of, of AI and even simply ChatGPT, like, if we’re not connecting to the deeper facet of ourself and most of our ideas are unconscious, it’s not lengthy earlier than we’re gonna be working for our AI overlords. So, because of this it’s so essential to find our objective. So, I walked by means of that in key two.
After which, key three, I confer with you as measure your MEPS. So, MEPS stands for, it’s 4 KPIs that I speak about. MEPS stands for psychological, emotional, bodily, and non secular well-being. And what’s actually cool now could be that we have now a lot entry to information that we are able to use to start to quantify our well-being. We will really start to grasp and measure our psychological well-being, our emotional well-being, our bodily well-being, and even our non secular well-being. And so, I stroll by means of pragmatic and sensible methods on how we are able to start to make use of these because the foundational items to then transfer on to what I, the subsequent key’s, you understand, uncover your mission to MARS.
And the MARS that I’m speaking about is just not what, you understand, Elon Musk is constructing rockets to go to a different planet. I confer with MARS as a number of automated income streams. And I feel a part of after we, as soon as we’ve unplugged from the matrix, we’ve found our objective and now we’re starting to measure our MEPS, now we are able to use these items to start to design abundance producing techniques. And that is the place we get to make use of automation and AI to assist help us. After which I additionally speak about how we are able to really flip the swap on social media. And as a substitute of it being one thing that harvests our consideration, we are able to really use it and use its energy to do easy issues like market analysis, construct neighborhood, serve individuals at giant, and see what they want and need.
So, after which after that, I get into some extra, I’d say, extra of the non secular aspect of issues. I get into like the way to construct resilience, relationships, and sources. After which, you understand, by the top of it, I begin transferring into this apply that I’ve developed, and I’m educating round engineering synchronicities. As a result of I’ve been learning the artwork and science of manifesting. You bear in mind when The Secret got here out and the regulation of attraction and like, it was, that was actually cool, however as a result of for me, I additionally should be intellectually stimulated, and I actually need to grasp the science and the underpinnings of it, I started to check that and actually perceive how electromagnetic frequencies work, how our cells have electrical exercise, how the frequency of our cells can really attract and usher in that which we both unconsciously or consciously need. So, I form of bridge that. So, I begin pragmatic and sensible, after which by the top of the e-book, we’re getting slightly bizarre.
Katie: I really like that. My journey has actually taken me into that realm as properly in the previous couple of years, and I’ve come to appreciate simply how really pivotal that’s to so many features of our lives. This piece that I used to not take note of in any respect has now grow to be so core to a lot of what I do. However I might like to hone in on a few stuff you talked about. There’s clearly extra within the e-book than we are able to unpack on this one episode, however you talked about so many wonderful issues, and I wish to go deeper on a few them.
I really like, particularly you talked concerning the energy of ideas. This was large for me. Really, even in my kind of trauma restoration journey, I didn’t notice till I began auditing my ideas, such as you stated, what number of of them had been damaging. And I really consider that our unconscious works to reply the questions we give it. But when we give it questions that we really don’t need the solutions to, it’s going to provide us solutions we don’t need. And so, as a really surface-level instance, once I would say issues like, why is it so arduous to shed pounds? Why I do that? Why is that this so arduous? It will reply these questions, and it could be like, oh, properly, you’ve gotten six youngsters, you’ve gotten thyroid points, you, blah, blah, blah. And once I discovered to begin taking note of that interior converse of my ideas and asking myself higher questions, I began getting dramatically higher solutions. And I do know that that’s only a very small instance, however I might love so that you can delve slightly deeper into what you speak about in taking note of our ideas and beginning to curate them to kind of transfer in a extra constructive path for us.
Gordy: Yeah, properly, I really like the truth that you simply talked about a thought audit. I don’t even, I didn’t even know that you simply try this, however that’s what I speak about as properly, is we have to audit our ideas. And one of many workouts that I do even for myself, and I do once I’m facilitating for a gaggle of entrepreneurs, is I’ll simply have them freestyle their total thoughts for an hour. They usually’ll simply journal what the interior dialogue is saying. And it once they see and replicate again what the thoughts is doing, it’s alarming as a result of, for probably the most half, this can be very disempowering. And it’s it’s always received this voice of such as you stated, it’s a it’s framed in a why query. And and a part of the programming of our thoughts, after we’re asking why questions, what it’s doing is it’s really creating an ineffective course of as a result of while you ask the query, why can’t I shed pounds, what you’re doing to your individual system is you’re making a protection, it’s like now I’ve to defend myself in opposition to this query of why. And so, while you, however while you ask a what or how query, such as you stated, now you’re asking a query, it’s like, what do I have to do to shed pounds? Or what do I have to do to generate abundance? How can I generate abundance? There’s no emotional set off to it. Now you’re simply, you’re asking a query to excavate solution-oriented course of. And in order that’s a giant piece as properly.
One other one which like a direct hack that I all the time speak about is simply in any given second, you may pause and say, am I having my ideas? Or are my ideas having me? And most often, individuals will discover that our ideas are having us there. It’s the fixed programming and conditioning that’s simply transferring and always going. There’s this different train that’s actually cool {that a} good buddy of mine taught me. It’s referred to as sportscaster. So, what you’ll do is you’ll sit in a dyad. So, we’ll sit throughout from one another like this. And for 5 minutes straight, we are going to really, as if we’re a sportscaster, we are going to sportscast our ideas out loud and verbalize them. So, it might sound one thing like this: Okay, so now I’m sitting right here throughout from Katie, we’re doing a Wellness Mama podcast. I’m myself within the digital camera. Do I look okay? Okay, let me assume that that’s this working? Are individuals gonna like this podcast? Is the content material good? What are we really gonna speak about? How do we modify individuals’s lives? Okay, oh, did I brush my tooth with the best toothpaste in the present day? Oh, attention-grabbing, why did I simply take into consideration that? So, you see prefer it simply goes loopy after which related. However while you’re doing that with any individual, and so they’re witnessing it, they’re serving to you extract numerous the programming and conditioning. And in order that’s one other cool train.
However I feel what’s most enjoyable for me, and like the place I’m creating a physique of labor, is round this notion that our ideas are probably the most highly effective foreign money for us to take a position. As a result of we’re investing our ideas. Like I stated, 40 to 60,000 ideas a day. That implies that during the last 17 days, you’ve invested 1,000,000 ideas. The place did you make investments these million ideas? What was the ROI on these ideas? The place are you gonna make investments your subsequent million ideas? And what, how are you going to make use of these ideas to design the lifetime of your desires? In order that’s one thing that I’ve been actually excited to play with as a result of think about when you had like a Fitbit in your ideas. And you would have like this potential to measure the standard of your ideas, properly, we’re getting there quickly sufficient. And I feel the extra we’re in a position to do this, that’s what’s going to create this, you understand, evolution of human consciousness the place we do awaken and we do transcend the programming and conditioning that’s been there for us. As a result of as you understand, for after we’re youngsters from zero to eight, we’re in a theta state and we’re principally simply absorbing our total world and getting programmed. And so even now in our, you understand, thirties, forties, fifties, and sixties, we’re simply enjoying out the zero to eight. From zero to eight is what we’re enjoying out as adults. And so, half, such as you stated, a part of the trauma work goes again into these time and areas and therapeutic that which nonetheless must be healed and built-in.
So, yeah, that’s and even my, you understand, our group is, so, okay, I’ll share this actually profound, highly effective story. I shared within the e-book, however that is the pivotal story. Once I was doing the internet advertising stuff, we had a day in 2007, we had a record-breaking day the place we did over six figures in someday. And what I went and did is I went and purchased the area title ctr.com. For these of you who don’t know, in internet advertising, CTR stands for click-through charge. And so, it’s successful metric that in case your click-through charge is larger, then your marketing campaign can be performing higher. And so, I used to be intelligent, and I wished to construct a know-how platform that might auto-optimize the click-through charge for our purchasers and advertisers. Quick ahead to 2015, I used to be deep inside a meditation, and I received such a transparent, highly effective message, which was, it went like this, we don’t want a better click-through charge. What we’d like is a acutely aware thought revolution. And my complete physique began shaking with this like profound reality. And from that second, that’s how now my, you understand, my complete mission in life is to measurably speed up the evolution of human consciousness, beginning with my very own. And in order that’s why the final 10 years, that’s what I’ve been engaged on and proceed to work on. And as you understand, the extra of the onion layers you peel, the extra you notice there’s extra to proceed peeling.
Katie: I really like that story. And also you additionally use the phrases engineering synchronicities. And I might love to speak about doing this kind of deliberately as a result of I’ve observed the sample in my very own life that when I’m most in a state of unconditional love and authenticity, I not less than discover synchronicities way more. And possibly will probably be useful so that you can outline that phrase for individuals who aren’t tremendous clear on what it means. However even I just lately had an expertise at a convention the place I used to be simply in that state of form of receptivity and authenticity. And it was like each dialog occurred precisely completely and performed out precisely what the individuals I hoped to attach with, with the concepts I used to be making an attempt to be taught. The whole lot simply fell into place so fantastically that I used to be for 2 weeks after on this simply absolute gratitude excessive. And so, I might love so that you can speak extra about engineering synchronicities and clarify what meaning.
Gordy: Yeah, completely. So, I’ve come to appreciate that we’re the universe experiencing and increasing itself by means of us. So, every one in every of us are a unique vantage level of the universe itself experiencing and increasing itself. So, if we wish to have and usher in and manifest and have a synchronicity inside our life, we are able to interface with the universe as a result of we’re the universe to do that. Nicely, there’s, you understand, we are able to speak about kind of the magical, legendary features of it, that are cool and attention-grabbing, however they’re not very sensible and pragmatic. So for me, I wished to search out the pragmatic and sensible and science-based ways in which I can use my bodily physique and my inner system to engineer synchronicities, which I consider are the biofeedback indicators from the universe telling you that you’re now in a state of manifesting.
So what occurs, what I’ve found is that after we’re in emotional states which might be of decrease frequencies, so after we’re in concern or greed or lack, then what we’re unconsciously signaling to the universe is that that’s the frequency that we’re vibrating at. So, as a result of we’re like a magnet, that’s what we’re gonna proceed to perpetuate in our life. And that’s why when numerous us generally are in a sufferer mode, we form of keep there as a result of that’s what we’re drawing in. However after we’re in a position to elevate our emotional states and embody, like gratitude is likely one of the highest frequency, vibrational frequency states which you can be in. And after we’re in that state, then we’re in a position to really design and engineer with the universe to begin bringing in states of actuality that we really need that’s really linked to our soul that’s deeper than some superficial like, oh, I would like thousands and thousands of {dollars} tomorrow.
And so, one of many issues that I labored on to develop is that this course of, I name it the MAGIC meditation. And so, the magic stands for the M is for magnetize. The A is for alchemize. The G is for generate. The I is to encourage and the C is to clear. And so, it’s a seven-minute meditation, and it’s virtually like an activation. It’s to a gorgeous soundtrack. And so, what we’re doing is we’re really activating the interior magnetic frequencies of our physique. After which we’re, so we’re, we’re bringing in and we’re altering our state to usher in all that which we really need. And now what occurs although, is we all the time get like, we talked about, there’s that nearly like that self-sabotage interior voice that’s all the time there, the, the unconscious and unconscious. So, after we’re magnetizing and bringing in, we’re additionally, our unconscious can also be bringing within the issues that don’t serve us. And in order that’s why the A for alchemize is we, I there’s this course of that takes a couple of minute the place as soon as we carry all the things in, we alchemize and transmute utilizing an power system in our physique, all of the damaging power into constructive power. After which we transfer up, and we’re really transferring.
So, the entire objective within the system is you’re transferring up the physique. You’re transferring into the completely different power techniques or in historic wisdoms, they name them the chakras. And so, after which from after you alchemize, you progress as much as the center. And what we do is we spend a while to generate the elevated feelings of gratitude, as if that which you already, that which you need has already occurred. As a result of while you try this, you are actually signaling to the universe, which you’re the universe, you’re already signaling that you simply’re not in lack. And since you’re not in lack and also you’re already experiencing the elevated feelings of getting that which you need, you open up the sector and also you grow to be, such as you magnetize it much more and also you carry it in.
After which we transfer as much as the throat chakra, which is, after which we transfer to the I, which is to encourage. And encourage comes from the Latin phrase of inspirare, which was to talk reality to. And they’d give that phrase to divine beings in historic occasions. And so, we do that, this field respiratory train the place you then exhale out for 4 seconds, you make an auditory sound to place again into the universe that, so that you usher in, you magnetize, you transmute, you generate, you encourage out. After which the final step is the C, which is obvious. And that is the place we transfer as much as, you understand, the pineal gland, the third eye, you carry our consciousness there. After which we do a deep re-oxygenation course of and deep inhales and exhales.
And so, this complete factor solely takes seven minutes. You may get entry to it at new millionairesplaybook.com free of charge. And, um, and while you do that, inside that day, you’ll begin seeing synchronicity. So, I, I, you understand, I noticed you at, um, Dave Asprey’s biohacking convention, and I facilitated this course of for a gaggle of individuals and, and it was to set the stage for that weekend for them. And it was wonderful. It will get individuals would come as much as me and be like, oh my God, you received’t consider what simply occurred. I used to be, I used to be making an attempt to unravel this drawback. And after we did this seven-minute meditation, impulsively, the issue robotically received solved. And, oh, I simply met this individual that I’ve been seeking to meet. So, it’s simply, it’s loopy. And, and what’s wonderful is like, you understand, you don’t must put in that a lot effort. I feel that’s a part of the phantasm that we’ve fallen for is that life needs to be arduous, and we have now to place a lot effort, however that’s solely as a result of we’re enjoying three-dimensionally. Once we begin like connecting to our soul, which operates multi-dimensionally, it operates outdoors of this bodily realm. That’s when you may hack the system, and you’ll like hack the matrix, and you’ll like, you understand, play a sport that’s slightly bit completely different.
And that’s why I speak concerning the new millionaire. The brand new millionaire isn’t any individual who’s chasing thousands and thousands of {dollars}. The brand new millionaire is any individual who lives a life to positively influence thousands and thousands of individuals, beginning with their very own. And the way do they try this? Once more, they uncover their objective. They unplug from the matrix. They start to measure their MAPS, after which they uncover how they will serve thousands and thousands of individuals, which then, such as you stated firstly of this, that’s how they generate abundance. The abundance era turns into a byproduct of them serving thousands and thousands of individuals, having an intention to serve thousands and thousands. And also you don’t, and that doesn’t imply it’s important to contact thousands and thousands of individuals. You possibly can influence, you understand, 100 individuals or a thousand individuals, however the, the ripple impact of that may, will proliferate. After which, you understand, by means of instantly or not directly, you’ll positively influence thousands and thousands of individuals. And that’s the brand new millionaire. And that’s the subsequent era. That’s, that’s the place millennials, Gen Z are transferring to as a result of they know the outdated sport is damaged. The outdated millionaire sport is damaged. Look the place we’re.
And that’s why I really like the work you’re doing, too, as a result of a part of what I found is the outdated sport was, was very masculine. And it was a really like penetrative, like, I received a hoard and management and get as a lot as attainable. However the brand new sport, it’s about balancing the enjoying subject. It’s about honoring the divine female. And that’s why I’m like such a giant fan of, you understand, what you’re doing for mothers as a result of we, I imply, Mom Earth is a mother.
Katie: I like it. And I do know you’ve gotten a lot extra that you simply cowl within the e-book in addition to in your web site. So, I’ll put each of these hyperlinks within the present notes for all of you guys listening. However I really like that we received to go in a few of these instructions on this episode, and we’re going to get to do one other brief episode as properly. So that you guys hold a watch out for that one. However Gordy, it’s all the time a pleasure. Thanks a lot. This has been a lot enjoyable.
Gordy: Yeah, no drawback. Thanks a lot.
Katie: And thanks as all the time to all of you for listening, and I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the subsequent episode.
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